Michael and Nicolay discuss the entrepreneurial mindset, innovation, the future of AI and the risks that drive success. Michael also reflects on why he took Dell private in 2013, and the bold $67 billion acquisition of EMC. Tune in!

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The production team for this episode includes Isabelle Karlsson and PLAN-B's Niklas Figenschau Johansen, Sebastian Langvik-Hansen and Pål Huuse. Background research was conducted by Kristian Haga.