Jens has had a long, impactful career within Norwegian politics, including serving as Prime Minister for a total of nine years. He shares his unique insights on global security challenges, the importance of strong alliances, and the evolving geopolitical landscape. From discussing the ongoing conflict in Ukraine to reflecting on how the world has shifted during his time at NATO, Jens offers thoughtful perspectives on leadership, decision-making, compromise, and his deep belief in the power of collaboration.

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The episode was produced by PLAN-B’s Pål Huuse and Niklas Figenschau Johansen. Background research was conducted by Une Solheim.